Daniel Greene

Tag: social media

  • Pros and cons of photo sharing on Facebook vs. Flickr

    I’ve been uploading photos to Flickr for over three years and Facebook for over a year, and I’ve been thinking lately about what I like and dislike about each service’s photo sharing functions. Here are my thoughts on Flickr vs. Facebook’s “Photos” application.

    Flickr Advantages:

    • Photograph Data
    • High-Resolution
    • Keywords Tags
    • File Hosting
    • Public Access

    Facebook Advantages:

    • Friend Tagging
    • Click-thru Albums
    • Large Private User Base
    • Simplicity

    Flickr for Photographers; Facebook for Friends

    The way I see it in a nutshell is: Flickr is for photographers; Facebook is for friends. Flickr is a photographer’s paradise. It is full of professional, artistic, high-quality photographs and — unless the photographer prohibits it — photograph data (EXIF & IPTC; i.e., aperture, shutter speed, light sensitivity or ISO speed, etc.) You can learn a lot about how certain effects are achieved by viewing the “More properties” link under the “Taken with a [Camera make-and-model]” link. Yes, of course Flickr is also for amateurs and snapshots. It’s not all art gallery stuff. But where it really shines is in the sharing of the photograph as an art form. Photographers can upload at very high resolutions, and viewers can click the “All Sizes” button above a photo (if the photographer allows it) to see the photo at higher resolutions. Higher resolution images may also be accessed by viewing Slideshows or by browsing Flickr with Cooliris.

    Flickr: Open, Moderated Publishing

    Another advantage of Flickr is its open, public presence on the World Wide Web (which I spelled out to emphasize the “worldwide” part). Photographers and viewers alike can tag photos with verbal keywords, which in turn allows photos to be found in keyword searches within Flickr and even within WWW searches. I have sold several photos that people found on my Flickr photostream through keyword searches. To aid in the worldwide sharing of photos, Flickr allows photographers to moderate and filter content through SafeSearch settings. This means that a photographer posting a photograph of a nude subject can flag that photo “Moderate” or “Restricted” and that photograph will only be visible to viewers who have configured their SafeSearch browsing settings to allow them to see Moderate or Restricted photos.

    Flickr: Hosted, Copyright-filtered Publishing

    Flickr also aids in the worldwide sharing of photos by implementing CreativeCommons labeling and filtering. If I want to restrict the use of a particular photo I post on Flickr, I can label it “all rights reserved.” But if I want to allow people to use it for non-commercial purposes as long as they don’t alter the image and as long as they give me credit, I can label it “Attribution-NoDerivs CreativeCommons.” Finally, another major benefit to photo sharing on Flickr is hosting photos on Flickr for use in web pages elsewhere, such as blogs. I have many photos in my blog, but they are all hosted on Flickr. For those of you who are less tech-savvy, that means that I upload the photo files to Flickr and the images you see on my blog are merely displayed on my blog even though the files reside on a server (file storage space) elsewhere. I also allow people to blog my photos as long as they leave the original photos on Flickr and merely embed image links in their blog pages. So again, Flickr is a great service for the storage and sharing of high-quality photographs.

    Facebook’s Killer Photo App: Tagging Friends

    Facebook, on the other hand, is great for sharing photos of friends with friends. Facebook has a killer feature: the ability to tag your friends in the photos they’re in. When you’re tagging photos, you just click on your friend’s face and begin typing their name in the field that pops up. Facebook auto-completes, so as soon as you see your friend’s name from the list of similar names, you click the check mark next to the name and – voila! – your friend is tagged. Clicking the tag takes you to that friend’s profile page, and on the left sidebar of their profile page, you’ll see a link that reads “Photos of ___.” Clicking on that link takes you, in turn, to a page of all the photos anyone has tagged them in. This great feature allows many different people to post photos of the same person and allows many different people to tag this person in photos, and then Facebook aggregates all these tagged photos of a certain person into one place. Cool!

    Sure, you can add “Notes” to photos in Flickr, and if I’m in a photo, I can add a “Note” to the photo saying “That’s me!” and Flickr will automatically add a link to my photostream. But I can’t add a note to a photo and have it automatically link to someone else’s photostream. And not all my friends are on Flickr; in fact, most of them aren’t. [Update on October 22, 2009: Flickr just added a people-tagging feature.]

    Facebook: All my friends are on it!

    Which brings me to another advantage to photo sharing on Facebook: most of my friends are on it. Chances are, most of your friends are on it too. Now, I can upload a bunch of photos to Flickr and mark them “Private: Friends Only” but that only works for my friends who are on Flickr, which ain’t many! Facebook, on the other hand, is a place where I can upload photos of my friends for my friends to see.

    Case in point: a little over three years ago, I took a bunch of photos of coworkers at a company picnic. I wasn’t sure they’d all want to be on the World Wide Web, so I uploaded them to Flickr, marked them “Private: Friends Only” and send invitations to every one of those coworkers to join Flickr as my friends so they could view the images. Half of them joined Flickr just so they could see the photos. Most of them didn’t leave comments, and none of them (except the two who were already using Flickr) ever used Flickr again, to my knowledge. At least I never saw any photos in their photostream. Three years later, I took a bunch of photos at an Interpreter Appreciation Dinner, and almost every single one of the people at that party was on Facebook! This made it easy to upload all the photos into an album, tag everyone in the photos, and instantly share memories of the event with not only my friends but their friends as well. Now, all the photos I tagged of those people will show up in those people’s Facebook profiles under “Photos of _____.” Yet no one in the rest of the world can see those photos. They are “private” yet they are shared and enjoyed by many friends. Major plus!

    Photos on Facebook: Easy to Post, Easy to View

    Oh, and Facebook is easy to use. You click on the thumbnail size of a photo to see the photo full size (which, on Facebook, is only about 600×400 or 400×600 pixels at most) and then you click on the full-size photo to see the next photo. You can keep your hand in one place, resting your palm on the mouse and click-click-clicking to flip through a whole album of photos. There’s no “Slideshow” widget on Facebook (Flickr has one), but it sure is easy to click through a whole album in a matter of seconds or minutes. Flickr, on the other hand, forces you to click on a little square thumbnail less than an inch in diameter to advance from one photo to the next, and that little thumbnail moves from place to place on your screen depending on the width of the photo on each page and/or the width of photos people embed in the comments they make on those photos. There’s no resting the hand on the desk and click-click-clicking in place with Flickr, no sir! But it still beats Facebook hands down for photo quality and information.

    Speaking of information, though, Facebook makes it easy for me to upload photos when I don’t care as much about quality or information. I know my photos are not going to be seen at high resolution on Facebook, so I don’t have to worry about pixel peepers. And Facebook doesn’t punish me by uploading images without titles the way Flickr does. If I upload without titles on Flickr, my images will be titled “IMG_4087” etc., and if I want them to be “untitled” I have to manually go through and delete every filename. When I don’t care about titling or captioning photos on Facebook, no big deal! Just upload them and Facebook doesn’t insist on titles and captions. (In fact, there really are no “titles” on photos in Facebook; there are only “captions” below the photos if you want to put them there.) I don’t have to worry about tagging my photos on Facebook, either. Of course, that’s also a disadvantage, because it makes it impossible to aggregate your photos by keyword or search photos by keyword, but again, Facebook is about people; Flickr is about photographs. That’s an arguable generalization, but there you have it.

    Flickr and Facebook: Each Has a Place in My Heart

    So what does this all bring me to? How do I use Flickr and Facebook now that I’ve analyzed each service’s photo sharing utilities? Well, I still adore Flickr. I’ve been a Pro member for three years and I just spent another $47.99 to be a Pro member for another two years. I will continue to use Flickr for the sharing and hosting of high-quality images I want to show off to the world and mirror on my blog. I will continue to use Flickr for the sharing and searching of photos by keyword. I will continue to learn from photographers and teach photographers by sharing my photos’ EXIF data and reading the EXIF data on great photos so I can peek into the camera settings used to achieve them. I will continue to geotag my photos on Flickr and look at other geotagged photos so I can teach and learn about this world we live in. (Yeah, I didn’t mention it, but another bummer about Facebook is the lack of geotagging. Oh, well.)

    When I take photos of friends at parties these days, I almost never think of putting them on Flickr. I just put them on Facebook, where almost all my friends are! I tag my friends in photos. Once in a while I’m disappointed when friends untags themselves in photos I’ve posted of them (maybe they thought the photos were unflattering even though I thought they looked great), but more often than not, my friends like my photos such much they make them their buddy icons, at least for a while. It’s nice to know there’s a ready-made user base of friends to share photos privately with. And not just “here’s a photo of you,” which anyone could do with email for the past two decades, but “here’s photos of us all, y’all!” It’s the communal, networked, interconnected sharing of photos which is so much fun on Facebook.

    So, there you have it! Here’s a recap for those who skip to the bottom of things:

    • Public photos on Flickr
    • Private photos on Facebook
    • Keyword-tagged photos on Flickr
    • Friend-tagged photos on Facebook
    • High-quality, high-resolution photos on Flickr
    • High-familiarity, medium-resolution photos on Facebook
    • Photographer’s paradise on Flickr
    • Fun for friends and family on Facebook

    Of course I oversimplified things here. I know all the widgets and twiddles on Facebook and Flickr, but this blog entry was more for me to share my overall perspective than to get into a didactic tutorial about how to use each site. I hope you enjoyed reading this and find it helpful.

    What do YOU think?

    I look forward to hearing from you, either on Facebook or here on my blog. How do use use each service? What are the pros and cons in your experience? Has your use of Flickr changed since the advent of Facebook? Do you ever untag yourself from a photo on Facebook, and if so, why? Do you wish Flickr allowed the tagging of friends? (Who knows… days, weeks, or months after this blog entry is posted, they just might implement it!)[On October 22, 2009: Flickr added a people-tagging feature.]

  • How to get your Flickr photos to show up in your Facebook profile

    [Updated 2/13/12 with current directions.]

    So many of my Facebook / Flickr friends ask me this question, I’m going to blog the answer for the good of whoever wants to know. It’s easy, actually; Flickr will link to your Facebook account and automatically post your latest uploads to your FB profile.

    Just go to your Flick Account Settings and click on the Sharing & Extending tab. See at the bottom of the page? Where you see “Share Flickr photos to other sites,” click “edit” to the right of “Facebook.” If you haven’t connected Flickr to Facebook, click the Connect button. Check “Automatically share your public Flickr uploads anywhere your Facebook updates are shown.” After editing, Facebook should show “Activity Updates: ON.” Link your accounts to share your Flickr updates on Facebook.” When you upload new photos to Flickr, they will automatically be posted to your Facebook profile.

    So, there you have it. That’s how to link your Flickr account to your Facebook account and have your Flickr photos show up in your Facebook profile.

  • Why I’m posting daily Twitter digests on my blog

    Since someone asked me why I was bothering to use Twitter Tools to automatically post daily digests of my Twitter updates to my blog, I’m writing a blog post to explain.

    I like the daily digest of updates for the following reasons:

    • My updates are my writings (sometimes even haiku), and I want them on my blog.
    • It gives people another way to follow me on my blog rather than having to look elsewhere.
    • If by any chance Twitter turns out to be a fad, I will have a record of my Twitter updates on my blog, which has been around since 1996 and I hope will be around at least another 13 years.
    • I carefully craft my @replies to be entertaining and/or informative to a global audience; otherwise, I send direct messages. Thus, I’m not worried about littering my blog with meaningless drivel.
    • Twitter is microblogging, so what better place for it than my blog?
    • If people see one day of my Twitter updates, they may like what they see and consider following me

  • Tweetup meal w/ Gary Millard & Sheila Bocchine

    I took part in an interesting phenomenon today. I was riding the light rail home from work when I checked Twitter using Twidroid on my T-Mobile G1 with Google. An update suddenly appeared from Sheila Bocchine (sheilabocchine on Twitter and daisyjellybean on Flickr) that read, “I have all the necessary paperwork for my visa complete!! Yay!! Now for lunch at Mrs. White’s Golden Rule Cafe!!”

    I’ve wanted to try Mrs. White’s Golden Rule Cafe for a couple of years now, and I’ve seen it many times lately while passing it on the eastbound train on Jefferson at 8th Street. I just happened to be on Washington and 24th Street when I read her latest tweet, so I was only blocks away from the restaurant. I sent her a direct message saying, “Like company for lunch? I’m on the Metro in that direction right now! =)”. I didn’t hear back right away, so I sent another, “I am at 12th st & Washington right now”, and finally, “I got off the train. If now’s not a good time, I can get the next one.” Luckily, I got a direct message from her as I stood on the station platform that said, (more…)

  • Geeks vs. Early Adopters on Twitter (and elsewhere)

    In the month-or-so that I’ve been on Twitter, I’ve gotten the impression that a lot of people on it are geeks, a lot of them are early adopters, and a few are “regular folks.” And I wonder if some of the angst I’m feeling is that I’m more of an early adopter than a geek.

    I define geeks as the people who create the latest technology and early adopters as the first people to use it. I have read geeks’ writings and conversed with them on the Internet, such when I participated in the newsgroup comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html in 1996. I learned HTML and CSS by reading, asking questions, and eventually answering questions. I became one of a handful of people in the world to publish a web page in HTML using CSS in August 1996. Yet I didn’t become a professional Web developer. I didn’t become a recognized “expert” in the field (unless you count being interviewed by Wired in 1998). Why? Because I’m not a geek. I don’t take well to sitting for hours in front of a computer screen hacking code. I don’t know any of the languages it takes to write CSS that can render properly in any web browser; i.e. I can’t use JavaScript to insert “browser-sniffing” code that delivers CSS written for each browser’s idiosyncratic (read “faulty” or “noncompliant”) way of rendering CSS… But I digress.

    My point is: I’m not a geek; I’m an early adopter. And it causes me angst, because I’m a lot more geeky than most people, yet I’m not geeky enough for the geeks. It’s sort of like my IQ: my intelligence is above average, but I’m not a genius. I’m smarter than most people and not as smart as the geniuses I admire.

    Twitter seems to be a place where geeks and early adopters collide. Or maybe collude. Ha ha. I guess you have to be a little geeky to spend any real time on Twitter; you have to be interested in being on a computer or mobile device for a longer period of time than the average person. You have to be interested in taking a couple of minutes out of your life every once in a while to tell people what you’re doing and thinking. You have to be interested in how people use new media to communicate with each other. But you don’t necessarily understand why so many people write “FAIL!” or “WIN!” And you might feel intimidated or confused by the way people tell “in” jokes. At least I do…

    It’s late at night now, and I’ve stayed up late because this is bothering me a lot. Without going into too many details, I had an experience today of being told that something I found extremely offensive was merely a reference to a source of humor for Internet geeks for over a decade now (I don’t endorse the site, but if you’re curious, it’s timecube.com). Some geeks thought it was funny to place a link to that site in the guise of a “Terms of Use” hyperlink at the bottom of every page of a website I stumbled upon the other day. For them, it was a big joke. For me, it wasn’t.

    This experience made me think about the interesting mix of geeks and early adopters on Twitter at this moment in time. (Of course, there are also a huge number of “Social Media / Social Marketing / SEO Experts” on Twitter too, but don’t get me started.) It got me to thinking about who’s talking to whom. I’m currently reading The Cluetrain Manifesto in book form (it got too hard to read on my T-Mobile G1 with Google), and it talks a lot about how markets are conversations– conversations among consumers, conversations among corporations, and conversations between corporations and consumers. Basically, the book says that both consumer markets and corporations are composed of people and people need to speak with each other in a human voice. (At least that’s what I’ve gathered so far; I’m up to Chapter 3.)

    So, where is the human voice on Twitter? Some would say it’s everywhere, but I find too often that the voices I “hear” on Twitter are not speaking to me. Too often, they’re trying to sell me something. Too often, the “tweets” I read have nothing to do with me. They’re either over my head or about things I don’t have enough context to understand. (This is especially a problem with @replies. I read a blog recently that said – and I paraphrase – “if you don’t understand them, either follow the people they’re replying to, unfollow them, or stop complaining.” I’ve searched for 10 minutes to find this blog, but it’s almost midnight and I can’t find it. Sorry. Leave a comment if you know the URL.)

    Even the marketing strategy people say you should figure out who your market is, who you’re targeting. Are you targeting other geeks? Then continue to speak geek. But if you’re targeting regular people, then you might want to be less arcane. Take it from this early adopter, we’re smart, but not “brainy.” We’re cool, but not cliquish. And if Twitter keeps expanding, which I think it will, there aren’t going to be as many of us “early adopters” and then you’ll really need to stop speaking geek and start speaking human.
    This is not a monologue; it’s a conversation. What do you think? Please leave a comment. I would like to hear your perspective on these social and marketplace issues, whether you’re a geek, an early adopter, or (to quote The Cluetrain Manifesto), “Joe Six Pack.”